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Police Brutality at the Oscar Grant Protest on November 5th, 2010

November 7, 2010

I was arrested on Friday night along with over 150 other people at the peaceful protest in Oakland against Judge Perry’s minimum sentencing of 2 years with time served for Johannes Mesehrle, the former BART police offer who shot and killed Oscar Grant on New Year’s Eve 2009 at Fruitvale BART while Oscar was handcuffed and on his stomach.

The activities started at Frank Ogawa Plaza at 2pm, where live art and building an altar for Oscar Grant took place:

Oscar Grant live art and altar

live art in honor of Oscar Grant - I took this photo but feel free to use it anywhere you want.

At 4pm, there were live performances (spoken word poems, hip hop and other genres of songs, etc.) and speakers.

At 6pm, we were no longer allowed to use the sound system in a public area, so we commenced with a protest headed towards Fruitvale BART, the original scene of the crime where Oscar Grant was senselessly shot and killed by Johannes Mesehrle. The protest consisted of marching, chanting, and holding signs.

"We demand justice for Oscar Grant! The Whole damn system is guilty!"

my sign from the protest

We marched down 14th St. and continued in the direction of Fruitvale until we got to Laney college, where the police formed two walls on either side of the block we were on, thinking that they were trapping us, but all the while giving no order to disperse or communicating whatsoever. Unfortunately for them, their intimidation plan failed, because we cut through an empty construction site to the side and continued the march. Because of the police cutting us off, we were forced to enter residential areas, where we ended up getting blocked in once more by the police when we got to east 17th and 6th st.

The above video (not filmed by me) shows what happened when we were trapped by police, who refused to give a dispersal order and allow us to peacefully leave. As you can hear around 4:15 in, at one point we started chanting, “Let us leave! Let us go!” We were not choosing to stop there in a residential area to try to prove a point. The police stopped and trapped us on that block to try to prove a point. After this video was taken, police allowed members of the media to leave the blockade, but refused anyone else the right to do so.

The above video further shows the refusal of the police to allow us to disperse. As one of the leaders of our group told the media 30 seconds in:

“Who is the commanding officer? Who is in charge? We have been in conversation with these people and we know that there are ground commanders here; they can make decisions.  This group wants to walk. We want to walk to Fruitvale. “

Shortly after that video, the following happened:

The police announced that media had to leave or they would be arrested. No one without a video camera/proof of media was allowed to leave. Seconds after that, the following announcement was made:

“THIS HAS BEEN DECLARED A CRIME SCENE AND YOU ARE ALL UNDER ARREST.”

At this point, I still did not believe that most of us would be arrested, since plenty of us were more than willing to leave peacefully, and even those that weren’t simply wanted to link arms and stand peacefully. But it quickly became clear that I was wrong and we were, quite literally, all being arrested as one by one people were cuffed. After each person was handcuffed with zip-tie cuffs, we were led to an area in the middle of the block and forced to sit down. We were then each paired with an individual police offer who took down our information. We were patted down very aggressively, much more so than was needed to check for weapons (unsurprisingly), and our bags were searched. Individual pictures of each of us with our names and birth date were taken, and we were lined up as we waited to be put into police vans and buses and carted off to North County jail in downtown Oakland. This process (of even getting us into the cars) took an hour. The man cuffed in front of me had a renal liver issue, and was about to pass out. The police offer partnered with him was informed of this, and refused to steady him or allow him to sit. He then started to collapse and was allowed to temporarily sit on the ground.

Throughout this process, police were making countless jokes to each other about us, and directly to our faces, including laughing hysterically as they told us that we were all being booked on felonies, an outright lie that they knew was a lie as they had already filled out our booking papers with the misdemeanor of “unlawful assembly.” As water bottles were passed out to the police, many of us requested water. Not only were we were refused, even those of us with medical conditions, but a policeman near me even poured out a bottle of water on the ground in front of someone who had requested water, and laughed in the person’s face.

When I was finally put into a police van with 12 others, the driver deliberately drove in an erratic and irresponsible manner, slamming on the brakes suddenly for no reason and swerving just to make us bounce around and hit the hard sides. It was the single most nauseating ride of my life, and that’s no coincidence.

When we arrived at the jail, we were forced to wait in the van for awhile, and one arrestee urinated herself after multiple requests for access to a toilet.

When we were allowed to exit the van, we were searched again, and were told to give up our shoelaces (which is standard procedure), though they were even inept at that, as some people got away with keeping their shoelaces on because the police didn’t notice. Our bags were obviously searched again, and they found several prescription medications I have. My name is on them, and it matches my legal ID, so they wrote down the prescriptions and asked me how often I needed to take them. I told them that I had to take one of them daily, that I typically took it with dinner because I had to take it with food, and that I didn’t get to take it yet that day. I was told that I would be allowed to take my prescription, and that food would be provided for me to take it with. This did not happen, but more on that later.

After we were searched and relinquished our shoelaces, we had to give urine samples so they could do pregnancy tests on them, as prenatal care is required for pregnant inmates, so anyone who was pregnant would have to be moved to a different facility. The police told one woman that she was pregnant, only to let her have a panic attack before laughing in her face because they had been “joking” (lying) the first time.

After “passing” the pregnancy test, I was then put into a holding space with around 10  women at that point (later, more than 20 women were in that same holding cell). [Author's note: I am a man, but I didn't transition/come out as transgender until shortly after this arrest.] Shortly after, they took me to get fingerprinted and take an official mug shot. They then brought me to a different holding space with 12 other people, all of whom were also arrested at the protest. Obviously, there were many, many different holding spaces, crammed full, to fit all 150+ of us.

After about an hour had passed, myself and others who were in the holding cell with me very politely asked every guard who passed if I and others with health issues could have access to our prescription medicine that we were promised. I also needed access to my other two prescriptions, which are for migraines and sciatica (a lower back nerve problem that results in extreme leg pain and numbness when one is immobilized for long periods of time in a sitting, standing, or lying down position, which obviously I was as I was in a jam-packed cell). Despite constant requests throughout the night, all of us were refused access to our medicine.

Other police actions that happened throughout the night:

  • They told a woman with cancer who requested adequate space in a holding cell so that she could lie down, as she is going through chemo and radiation and is extremely sick, that she “should have thought about her cancer before getting arrested,” and they wouldn’t let her call her friend (the phones in the holding cells only allow collect calls, which don’t work on cell phones – a huge problem in and of itself) or bring her food or cups of water (she couldn’t get up from sitting to use the fountain in the sink).
  • They ignored a woman having an asthma attack and refused her treatment, accusing her of faking it.
  • Women were constantly referred to as “babe,” “sweetheart,” etc. by the male police officers/guards.
  • When 10 hours had passed since our initial arrest (we were able to find out the time by collect-calling the National Lawyers Guild) and one of my cell-mates very politely asked a guard what time we would be released, a smug smile broke out across his face as he told us that he was going to add an hour to our time for asking. At a later point when someone politely requested the medicine she was promised, he smiled again, tiled his head back and laughed, and said that he was adding two hours to our time “for asking meaningless questions.”
  • A woman named Stephanie McGarrah was pushed into a group of cops by a civilian who falsely told them that she had started a fire. They put her on her back, cuffed her, and took her belongings before she was arrested so there is no way to link them to her, including her phone which had all of the contacts she needed. She was charged with arson and transferred to Santa Rita, and her arraignment is in Oakland on Tuesday.

This is only the tip of the ice berg regarding what happened that night, and what happens every single night to people in jail. Almost all of us had bruises on our arms from the way the cops handled us, despite the fact that no one in my group had even remotely resisted arrest. Our rights were violated due to police abuse of authority and police brutality at a peaceful protest against police abuse of authority and police brutality.

Yes, some negative things happened during the march, by a very, very small handful of people consisting of less than 1% of the entire group. I saw a few people jump on cars and break a window, people that I had seen earlier at the plaza passing around a bottle of whiskey. What they did was not acceptable. But they, and only they, should be held accountable, not the hundreds of us who did nothing more than march with signs and chant. The police absolutely knew that it was an incredibly small group of individuals doing anything wrong; they arrested us all to make a political point that police have the ultimate power over civilians to do whatever they want, whenever they want, and will not take anyone questioning that.

So QUESTION IT! Remember the reason we were protesting? Because a white police officer shot an unarmed, cuffed, peaceful black man point-blank and was sentenced to less than two years in jail, with time already served. He shot a man and took an innocent human life, and only has to serve TWO YEARS! That is NOT RIGHT, it is not justice – nor is arresting people for peacefully protesting, nor is the God complex police have and the way they treat people both in and out of jail. We can’t let police continue to have unchecked, unlimited power in society.

Please check out http://newyearsmovement.org/ for further information, resources, and places to donate to help fight police abuse.

If you are in the bay area, please come to a Berkeley Cop Watch meeting.

RIP OSCAR GRANT

58 Comments leave one →
  1. November 8, 2010 2:04 am

    Thank you for speaking out about what happened. I was on the outside trying to get information about a friend on the inside and was treated with similar rudeness and condescension on the phone, which made me rather afraid for my friend, and which I see was entirely warranted.

    I’m so glad you made it through, stay strong. :)

  2. November 8, 2010 2:05 am

    Thanks! I hope your friend is alright – is he or she out now?

  3. November 8, 2010 2:11 am

    Yes she was released yesterday after 15 hours in custody. From looking at her info on the jail’s website it seems she was one of the last people processed though I don’t know if that just means that’s when her info got entered into the computer or what. She hasn’t given out a ton of details yet except that she made it through ok and that because of the charges leveled against her (and I’m assuming you as well?) the fight isn’t over yet. We’re in the same cohort and have class together Tuesday so I’m hoping to hear her story then. :)

    BTW, if you didn’t see this, there was a call yesterday from a local reporter hoping to gather statements etc on what happened to them: http://twitter.com/#!/shoeshine/status/1009541563027456

  4. November 8, 2010 2:15 am

    Yepp, I was charged with unlawful assembly as well. They initially wanted to charge us with refusal to disperse, but then realized that had no chance of holding up in court since they physically would not let us disperse.

    I was lucky to be one of the earlier people released, in the morning – a friend of mine who was arrested at the same time as me (8pm) didn’t get out until 5pm :(

    Thanks for the link to that tweet! I had heard about her but I couldn’t find the actual information.

  5. jason permalink
    November 8, 2010 5:25 am

    people in philadelphia are holding this statement, this exposure of abuse tightly in our fists and searing in our hearts… youre not alone

  6. November 8, 2010 5:37 am

    great to hear, Jason, thanks! That means a lot.

  7. November 8, 2010 9:21 am

    Thanks for your article. I was on the bullhorn that night leading the march in our attempt to get to Fruitvale BART. When we were all arrested, it was so clear that the arrest was completely political and completely illegal. It’s so important that the truth be told about the real crimes that occurred the night of November 5, 2010, and those are the crimes of the Oakland police and their treatment of the protesters, and the crimes of the judge, the DA, and the entire judicial system that’s served no justice to Oscar Grant, his family, or the people of Oakland.

    Please let your readers know that this fight continues, and we are holding another march this Thursday Nov. 11. We will gather at Fruitvale BART station at 4:00 pm to rally before we march for justice. I hope you and your readers can come.

    In Struggle,

    Yvette Felarca
    Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, Integration, and Immigrant Rights and Fight for Equality By Any Means Necessary (BAMN)

  8. November 8, 2010 4:49 pm

    Yvette, hi! I was in the same holding space as you for 12 hours overnight. I will definitely be there on Thursday, and I will make another post about that today. Looking forward to seeing you again! It was a colossal mistake for the cops to do that mass arrest; all it did was give us more resources and more anger towards police injustice.

  9. November 8, 2010 7:32 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to put this together for us. I will do everything I can to get the word out there about this atrocity.

    Please know you have supporters everywhere–you’ve got one in me here in Kentucky.

    And to those cops: congratulations: you pissed off a nation of activists and lovers of freedom. Word of this will spread, and you will be held accountable for your actions.

  10. November 8, 2010 7:45 pm

    Thank you so much Brittany-Ann. Your support means a lot! It’s great to know that word is getting out about what really happened that night.

  11. November 8, 2010 9:57 pm

    This is appalling. Thank you so much for writing about it and posting videos. I’ll be sending this link to everyone I know, in hopes that they’ll send it on. I dare anyone to read this and say that the US isn’t a police state.

    I’m so sorry for the abuse you and your comrades had to endure. You have my unending respect and support.

  12. November 8, 2010 10:12 pm

    Thank you so much for spreading the word and for your support!

  13. November 9, 2010 1:04 am

    There’s a way to turn this into a complete disaster for the police and courts.

    Get as many people as possible to refuse to plead guilty or take a plea bargain and take as many cases to trial as possible. Their resources are limited and trials quickly eat up the operating budgets of local courts. If found guilty, refuse to pay the fine. You might have to spend a few days in jail if they’re not willing to accept community service in lieu of payment, but the trials will be close together so many people will be spending time with others who were arrested. I know jail time sucks, but it starves them of revenue.

  14. November 9, 2010 7:29 am

    Great post; you did an awesome job aggregating most of the videos people posted of the night and recounting your experience. I managed to get out when they declared it a crime scene by holding up my camera, as I don’t have a press pass that hasn’t expired.

  15. Bonny permalink
    November 9, 2010 3:33 pm

    You’re full of it. Trying to pretend as if you magically were blocked in by police to the point where you can’t leave. You know how many officers it takes to lock down 150+ people in a residential area? A lot more than were at your protest. You guys clearly had a case of the Oscar Grant syndrome going on and decided not to comply or use your brain when confronted by police. Then you got arrested, just lucky no mistakes were made this time, otherwise you idiots would be out there rioting again destroying innocent people’s property.

  16. November 9, 2010 4:43 pm

    Bonnie, I wish you were correct, but we truly were “magically blocked in by the police to the point where we couldn’t leave.” There were far more than 150 people trapped on the block initially, but many of them illegally ran through peoples’ backyards to get away. And I know exactly how many officers it takes, because I was there, and it happened. Why would I want to get arrested if I could have legally gotten away? This was my first time being arrested, and I had no desire for it to happen.

    “You idiots”? I didn’t destroy anyone’s property. 99% of the people arrested didn’t destroy anyone’s property.

  17. November 9, 2010 4:44 pm

    Glad that you were able to get out!

  18. November 9, 2010 5:18 pm

    josh, while i’m glad you weren’t arrested, you should have stayed. being an activist and an amateur videographer you have the chance to document things that the mainstream press will never report on.

    after watching the videos here, it didn’t surprise me one bit to see many journalists ‘run for their lives’ at the first chance they got. they should have stayed to finish the story, or at the least give the story a proper beginning which is what happened after the mass arrests. i heard too many stories from this event about what happened after the arrest to think that there wasn’t an opportunity for real journalism to take place once inside the paddy wagons or holding tanks. someone could have smuggled in a phone or recording device.

    if you don’t know about qik.com, look into it. if your smartphone can upload streaming video to the net, you’ll get great footage that can never be deleted from your phone because it’s stored on an internet server.

  19. November 9, 2010 5:24 pm

    apparently, bonnie, the police should have just shot these idiot protesters and be done with it.

    you’ve obviously never been intimidated by the police because i bet you do everything they ask when they tell you to. you’re a good subject. don’t question anything they do. you may complain sometimes, but you never resist, even peacefully.

    enjoy your police state while it lasts. the others are learning its weakness. it’s only a matter of time before it crumbles.

  20. November 9, 2010 5:32 pm

    Clearly, Bonny, you haven’t looked at the pictures of the block from that night. There was nothing “magical” about their being blocked in, it is quite evident that they were from the pictures. I’m not sure how many officers you think it takes to block in non-violent protesters on a residential street where houses help them out on two sides, but there were plenty of them that night.

  21. November 9, 2010 6:18 pm

    Seriously guys, stand up for yourselves. You’ll live under the exact amount of tyranny you are willing to accept.

    Resistance is victory

  22. November 9, 2010 6:32 pm

    as long as it’s peaceful, jeff, resistance is victory. stop cooperating, and their system crumbles. first in legitimacy, then financially.

    just getting video of the defendants at the arraignments asking the judge what has to be proven in order to find them guilty when they’re asked how they intend to plea creates a pr nightmare. if you really have the right to a fair trial everything should be explained before the arraignment ends and nobody should be forced to into a position where they can’t defend themselves without council.

    i wish i could be out there for this.

  23. November 9, 2010 6:41 pm

    Standing around letting yourself be arrested, humiliated and violated in every way imaginable is not ‘resistance’.

    Resistance is taking action and not allowing yourself and your fellow protesters to be arrested, humiliated and violated.

    Guarantee you police will have a much different attitude towards carrying out these unconstitutional violations of citizens rights when the people respond in kind.

  24. November 9, 2010 7:06 pm

    i disagree, jeff (not sure why i couldn’t reply to your post directly).

    first, violence against the state is futile. that’s the only thing they’re good at, plus it demonstrates legitimacy of their actions to people like bonnie who commented earlier.

    the automaton police on the ground will kill protesters and brag about it afterward if protesters get violent. staring them in the face and asking them if they’d hurt their own children for doing the same thing they’re about to hurt people for has a much better affect long-term. they’ll take that home with them. i’ve had cops tell me so.

    second, don’t discount getting arrested as doing nothing. it takes a lot to demonstrate you have the courage to stand your ground, something most people today aren’t willing to do.

    as i stated earlier, local courts and police have limited budgets. they cannot afford to have trials for everyone without going broke. if ten percent of people fought bullshit traffic tickets they’d stop writing them, save for the most serious of infractions.

    the same goes for activism and other non-crimes. take it to trial. sure, some of the first that refuse the plea bargain will be made an example of to discourage others from doing the same. but eventually, the state will cave and start dropping the charges, especially when they realize that the protesters have no intention of paying the fines.

    you bring up the constitution. it’s rubbish. they don’t care about it. stop voting, stop paying taxes and stop going along with their rules. live a peaceful life, don’t harm your neighbor and they will lose their legitimacy by coming after you.

  25. Anon permalink
    November 9, 2010 9:24 pm

    I believe I recognized 2 of the ruffians that were throwing stuff at people’s cars. I recognized them from the LA Sheriff’s Graduation of 2004.

  26. carl permalink
    November 9, 2010 9:27 pm

    Heres an Idea… Dont get involved with these stupid ass protests and you wont be rounded up and locked up.

  27. November 9, 2010 9:32 pm

    how was the protest stupid? They proved our point against police injustice even more by their actions that night. What they did showed just how necessary these protests are.

  28. November 9, 2010 9:33 pm

    Wow – I would not be surprised. I’d love to know any further info if you can find pictures of the people in question.

  29. Bob permalink
    November 9, 2010 11:19 pm

    Sigh…

    - First of all, you were NOT a participant in a legal protest march. Large gatherings of people in protest have rules to follow, just like in everything else in life. These rules are there for the protection and security of the population as a whole. You wouldn’t like it if Anti-Gay rights people were marching down your street, or if Pro-Lifers blocked the intersection in front of your house, smashing the windows of your car and breaking bus windows. The rules that govern a protest march apply to EVERYONE. You are no special.

    - The protest march you were a part of was NOT allowed (within the law and as agreed upon by the ORGANIZERS OF YOUR OWN protest march) to leave the downtown area. PERIOD. So, by attempting to march to Fruitvale BART you were a breaking the law, prima facia.

    - After the police attempted to stop your march at Laney college you even admit yourself that the group decided to illegally cut through private property (a construction site) in order to avoid the police blockade continue your illegal protest march. And to top it all off, the protest marchers decided to continue the march in a RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. What is wrong with you? At any point in time here you could have dispersed and gone home. No harm done. But you did not.

    - So now, your group is in the middle of a RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, where car and bus windows are being smashed and vandalized. And you are surprised when the police surround you and arrest everyone?

    - While your complaints about the conditions of your arrest are valid, your point is moot. Getting arrested is NOT a pleasant experience, for any one, under any circumstances. You are not given fluffy pillows and couches and allowed to relax as you are processed through the system. The officers have no obligation to be nice to you. Remember, you are a criminal at this point. (Do you still argue the fact that you marched illegally out of the downtown area, into a residential neighborhood where cars and buses were vandalized? Even after your march was stopped and you illegally cut through private property, during all of which you had ample time to disperse and go home????). So since you are a criminal, you are treated like a criminal.

    Your ignorance of the laws and rules which govern this type of activity does NOT excuse your actions. If the protesters had stayed in the downtown area (as was agreed upon by the police and the organizers of the protest) then no one would have been arrested, Oakland finally would have seen a constructive, valuable and enlightening moment where it’s citizenry finally was able to get their message out without violence and property destruction and the whole nation might have had a chance to reflect on the actual issues at hand. But, alas, Oakland did what Oakland does best…fuck shit up.

  30. November 10, 2010 12:09 am

    Sigh…

    What’s wrong with ME? What’s wrong with YOU that you care more about defending the police in this situation than police brutality/abuse of authority?

    Where did I ever complain about not being given a pillow or a couch in jail? What are you even talking about?

  31. Superfab permalink
    November 10, 2010 12:32 am

    Innocent until proven guilty. So you cannot expect to be treated by police like human beings? No matter what laws you broke, what crimes you have committed, you still have the right to be treated as a human being – with dignity. What I read here sounds like a re-visit of the G20 protests in Canada earlier this year. The cops treated everyone like shit, because they had the upper hand. Is this really the behavior that you, a normal, law-abiding person, expect from someone you pay with your tax dollars to protect your person and your property? Just wait for the day you end up walking around the corner and finding yourself in the middle of a police kettle. We’ll speak then, ok?

  32. Bob permalink
    November 10, 2010 1:04 am

    And how exactly were they not treated like human beings? They were arrested, sent to jail, processed and then released. It took 10 hours? Well there were 150 of them, what the hell you want them to do?? There is no Express Lane in jail. A few particular points to bring up…

    - Denial of Medications – from the description of above, it sounds like everyone who got arrested was either: old, infirm, sick or dying. Please. And in the authors example, she was denied medication for migraines and sciatica nerve damage. Guess what kind of pills those would be? Pain pills, more than likely narcotics. So no, you do not get to take your narcotic pain pills in jail. Sorry. Find me someone who was denied their blood pressure medication and we can talk

    - Everyone needs to be treated with dignity- I wholeheartedly agree. Now look back through those videos and look back through these comments and tell me if the police were treated like human beings and given dignity. If the protesters had NOT marched illegally through residential and private property and not vandalized vehicles then guess what would have happened? They would have had their protest, the point would have been made and the nation would have listened.

    - Cops treat everyone like shit because they have the upper hand – Slightly true. It is more like “Cops treat everyone like shit in a chaotic and tense situation involving 100′s of people because they MUST maintain the upper hand.” This is standard crowd control training. That is why they yell and order you around and if YOU DO NOT COMPLY they will shove you to the ground and treat you roughly. Face it, you are getting arrested and there is nothing you can do about it. You broke the law.

    - Innocent until proven guilty – You are 100% correct. And everyone of these people will have their day in court. You were arrested because they have reasonable cause that you broke the law. That is the way it works.

    This is America and you are free. But you don’t get to do whatever the hell you want. If you can think of a way to break of a protest consisting of several violent individuals who could possible stir the crowd into a riot, please feel free to share.

    And allowing the march to continue was out of the question, in my opinion, regardless of whether or not the march was legal. There had already been demonstrated violence ( damaged vehicles and there was also an instance of an officer losing his weapon to a protester) and the protesters intended to march 3.5 miles to the Fruitvale BART station, invariably going through residential neighborhoods and likely gathering more people and increasing the chance of more violence and destruction.

  33. Bob permalink
    November 10, 2010 1:12 am

    So you still will not allow me to reply to your response huh?

    You are acting just as cowardly as you claim the system treats you.

    Shame

  34. November 10, 2010 1:13 am

    Bob, you need to stop assuming that you know facts about what happened when you were not there – examples:

    -10 hours? No, you were not there. It took almost 24 hours for everyone to be released.

    -guess what?! my migraine and sciatica medicines are NOT narcotics. It is physically impossible to get “high” off of them. They are not pain killers, they work on the conditions themselves. So, no, you are 100% wrong. And everything I reported was true.

    -”if YOU DO NOT COMPLY they will shove you to the ground and treat you roughly.” Guess what, I complied 100% while being arrested. I was polite, I answered every question and did not resist physically OR verbally.

    Again, you are completely ridiculous and laughable for acting like YOU know better than ME, who was there! Ha! Talk about an ego. I actually laughed out loud at some of your assumptions because you’re so off-base and it’s quite hilarious that you think you would have more correct info than people who were – get this – actually there.

  35. Bob permalink
    November 10, 2010 1:17 am

    Since you are deleting my comments I will not be responding anymore here.

    And why do you assume I was not there?

  36. gildedlink permalink
    November 10, 2010 1:22 am

    This is so fucked up in so many ways. It reminds me of a similar incident that happened here in NY during the republican national convention in 2004, people started calling it “guantanamo on the hudson” because of the way in which protesters were brought beneath a city pier and caged in pens. People were held for up to 72 hours before release, lots of people who had nothing to do with the protest involved…it was an atrocity. And 6 years later, its practically forgotten. It troubles me to see things like this happen, but even moreso when these events are lost to memory. I really hope this one sticks out in Oakland’s mind well after the officer who shot Oscar Grant is released.

  37. November 10, 2010 1:46 am

    I dare you to be more incorrect, Bob. I double-dog dare you.

    If you weren’t there, you need to stop speculating about what you think happened and stop denying the experiences of the people that were there. Period, the end.

    Oh, as for the prescription meds thing, are you a doctor? Or a pharmacist? Are you aware that not all medications to treat pain are narcotics, or are yhou just guessing? Regardless of what the medications were, as long as they were prescribed by a physician they had a legal right to them, regardless of what they were.

  38. November 10, 2010 2:00 am

    Police brutality at its finest. Injustice.

  39. November 10, 2010 2:12 am

    A) Where did I claim that the system treated me “cowardly”?

    B) Even if I had, you can’t compare the way a random WordPress blogger is acting to the way police act as if they should have the same standards.

    C) Sorry that I was away from my computer for 20 minutes and couldn’t approve your posts. Also – I have no obligation to approve ANY of your posts. Quite frankly, you’re lucky that I did approve any given the outrageous assumptions you made about myself and others in them.

    D) In response to, “And why do you assume I was not there?” If you were there during the activities you commented on, you would know that it took almost 24 hours, not 10 hours, for people to be released. You would know that we complied with being arrested. You would know that the medicine people requested wasn’t narcotics.

    So even if you were “there” at some point during the protest, you absolutely were not there during the points you’re making assumptions about or, hey, you’d actually know the truth.

  40. November 10, 2010 2:34 am

    It is often a sign of simple ignorance when a reader, a person reading a news story, actually postulates like he was an actual participant or witness to the news being reported. However, in Bob’s case, it actually feels more like he thinks with a racist mind who just can’t get why folks of Color feel that they need to have rights. These are the thoughts of folks that remind me of Bob, “Why should anyone believe any of them. They’re always complaining about some cop when they’re the ones committing all the crimes. Just watch the news or all the police stories. They’re the ones who are the criminals. We’re better off every time one of them stops breathing.” I’ve read these comments all too often. Even when there should be a breath of compassion for the tragic loss of a life, there will be loads of ignorance racist rants. Sad state of affairs for the ignorant of mind and icy of heart.

    Bob and those like him have probably watched so many of those cop stories that cast Black folks, men, especially, but women as well, into roles that make them appear desperate and dysfunctional with one or two gracious qualities. Usually, there is some awful crime and even worse is the way these characters act towards their own.

    Also, often folks who make such comments, like Bob’s, have only have very minimal contact with folks of Color. They know nothing about the folks they hate, only what commonhaters, like Russ Limbaugh (limb bomb) report.. Folks like Russ say if a Black person, a Latino or a Native American is involved, it’s their fault. They are scum and criminal, even Obama. He’s not one to have a decent thing to say. It’s his job to eradicate intelligence and any hope for harmonious diverse communities.

    Yep, in those small minds, it was Oscar’s fault miserable Mehserle was in a murderous stupor that ill-fated New Year’s morning. It was his fault Mehserle, in a fit of hateful rage pulled out his gun from his holster to let some steam out. He knew the folks he worked for were racist beasts, just like himself. He knew they’d defy truth to get a “nigger”. Didn’t feel quite as good as those lynchings used to, where the whole community would gather and party under the swinging body, but this was close enough. It always is. Across the country, there is an unspoken police war on young Black men…If we want to kill you, we can just say, “probable cause.” What kind of decent mind condones murder? Well, I guess everyone knows being a Black male youth/young man is not popular this year either.

  41. November 10, 2010 2:44 am

    I’d also like to thank you for your courageous article, inoculatedcity, and apologize for the treatment you received, that you all received. It’s hard to understand all this divisiveness and how it has seeped into all levels of this society. Bob implies that he was at the protest, just didn’t get arrested, which still means, he wasn’t there. I pray all of you who stood to protest the abomination of justice meted out to the family and community of Oscar Grant III the absolute best resolution to your cases. Again, I am saddened that you all suffered so. At least at the protest after the verdict, the police gave constant instruction to disperse, where to disperse, and how. From where I stood in the midst of everything that day/evening, I couldn’t get arrested because I followed, mostly, their directives. However, to be surrounded by riot police, who will not allow the demonstrators the right to disperse, could not be anything less than frightening. Even though the police force everywhere won the battle with miserable Mehserle getting off for murder, they were thirsty for more violence, more misery. Remember, the police do not act without orders. Who gave them the order to surround the demonstrators and NOT allow them to disperse? Now, that’s where the discussion should really begin.

  42. November 10, 2010 2:49 am

    Absolutely – I thought many of the same things. Why would people of Color be expected to sit down peacefully and hold flowers and sing kumbaya after something like the Oscar Grant killing happens?

    Also, there have been many racist (well, even more blatantly so) comments that I didn’t approve that people tried to post. I don’t want to subject anyone coming to this blog to that. Naturally, I’m sure they’re whining to themselves right now about how their free speech is being violated.

  43. November 10, 2010 2:52 am

    @gildedlink: amazing loss of rights. The Patriot Act has opened the door to the Eastern Bloc behaviors. First, the Patriot Act and then, the tea party, a new kind of mediocrity. We’ll be having blockades between states next thing you know. We need some folks in office who are truly interested in preserving democracy, before it’s too late.

  44. Jack Ansler permalink
    November 10, 2010 3:13 am

    Yeah, revenue that they will then take back out of your paycheck in the form of taxes. Starving them of revenue is not the answer. What ‘s happening here, on this blog is the way to go. Shame them into submission. Show eveyone you can what was done to you and let them know that this is not an acceptable way for human beings to treat each other, and that it will not be tolerated, not even once.

  45. Get_Famous! permalink
    November 10, 2010 3:22 am

    I’m assuming your a pretentious troll, and horrible at it. Also, I’m assuming that you enjoy big cop dicks in your mouth-hole.

    Spoiler Alert: No one gives a fuck about your opinion this is the internet welcome to it.

  46. Bob permalink
    November 10, 2010 3:45 am

    You are just pathetic. You have deleted 3 entire posts of mine that respond to accusations against me of racism and also bring up my original points, which you continue to refuse to address, i.e. the blatant illegals actions you and your cohorts are guilty of and which you even admit to. I am sure this comment will be deleted as well.

    I truly do not understand how you can justify yourself. Your fanaticism only serves to feed your own little world view that obviously does not include the concerns or safety of other people, neighborhoods, their peace and their property. All while you try to make a statement. Hypocritically, your statement is almost exactly the opposite of what was actually preached.

    Your movement will die a slow but inevitable death because the rest of the world knows the truth. You are false.

  47. November 10, 2010 3:53 am

    LOL! Well stated, BigMikeinNH!

  48. November 10, 2010 4:01 am

    I haven’t “deleted” any of your posts. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but they need to be approved before they show up. I don’t owe you anything. I have every right to not approve any posts I want to, as this is my blog.

    My concerns for people’s safety and property? What are you talking about? I did not engage in ANY property damage whatsoever; that is not something I would ever participate in. I am adamantly against violence, and I did not commit any. Walking through a neighborhood does not equal property damage. If you want to blame someone for property damage, guess what, I know exactly who you should blame – the people who committed the vandalism and destruction of property! I have no problem with you blaming them. Go right ahead. I wasn’t one of them, and neither were 99% of the people who got arrested. You say I’m refusing to accept responsibility, but I’ll fully accept the fact that I marched while holding a sign and chanting. I admitted so right in this blog post. I’m not going to accept responsibility for property damage, because I did not damage any property, nor was I part of a group that was doing so. As I said in the post, a VERY small handful of people were doing so, that does not represent the entire group, regardless of what the media wants to sensationalize.

    “Your movement”? I thought you were part of the movement for justice for Oscar Grant? The movement against police brutality? The idea that you’re against police brutality is laughable after the defenses of the police you’ve made. It’s one thing to defend them arresting us, but your defense of their treatment of us in jail and through the process is unacceptable.

    My statement is the opposite of what was preached? You’re making no sense whatsoever. My “statement” was that police brutality and abuse of authority is unacceptable. I never made any statement saying, “people who have their own personal blogs shouldn’t be allowed to censor comments,” sorry. This post isn’t about me being upset at not being allowed to leave a comment on someone else’s personal WordPress blog, it’s about police brutality. For you to compare you being “censored” on someone else’s personal blog to the government “censoring” a protest makes no sense.

  49. November 11, 2010 5:59 am

    This makes me so angry. I wish you luck in fighting this injustice.

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